Wednesday, October 29, 2008

Fire Island or Rykers Island...

When people ask me what it was like to grow up in New York City, I often reply "Everyone I grew up with either ended up on Fire Island or Rykers Island." It's more like any guy I dated... but the fact remains - I had quite the diverse groups of friends. It's ironic that the "bad" people were often the ones who were the kindest to me... I mean who was going to protect me better than someone who knew the streets?

I went to private schools, but my cronies were not the classmates seated around me. These "gotta go to Brown" students were not my peers... at least not in my horribly depressing "I hate school" days. I preferred to hang out with the groups who congregated on street corners and in school yards in my upper east side neighborhood... specifically the "84th street gang" who met for pizza at Mimi's to plan an evening of drug-fueled carousing, the "Yardies" who hung out in the PS6 schoolyard (especially John Denoia, my eternal "crush") , and the "Parkies" who met up in Central Park (the Meadow or the Bandshell) or on the steps of the Met, and who shaped my teenage years more than any other group I can recall. These groups were loosely connected to each other, and often their antics provided more of a street-smart, self-actualizing education than I could ever receive from science lab or Cliff Notes.

With my mother bedridden and dying, and my father's alcoholic tirades, I took every opportunity to escape our Park Avenue apartment in search of an acceptance I couldn't quite achieve in school. Equipped with a Walkman and tapes of the Who and David Bowie, I would cruise the streets of my neighborhood or hightail it to the park on my ten-speed in search of the friends who shared my common values - sex, drugs, and rock and roll. We'd drop acid at the Bandshell and listen to Pink Floyd, chomp mescaline at midnight in the Meadow, and roam the streets of "forbidden" neighborhoods in search of new and better highs.

It's no wonder I dropped out of Riverdale in the middle of 11th grade. My father's motto was "whatever makes you happy" and I was only "happy" when I wasn't under pressure to excel in an academic onslaught of vertebrate anatomy (although Mrs. Djedda was the only teacher I really liked) and European History. When I did go back to school, I chose an "alternative" school, Baldwin, which I learned about through my Parkie friends. We paid the tuition and I got a diploma. And I hardly ever had to do any work. Plus, Baldwin had an ultimate frisbee team, which meant (of course) practice in the Park. How convenient! Lots of round rolling trays!

25 years later, I have found many of these friends through Facebook. People who have popped up in memories and who I have often wondered "whatever happened to...?" are back in my life and I am overwhelmed by the fact that so may people do remember me. And even more... liked me! Go figure...

I am hearing about so many people - those who ended up on Rykers Island and those who made it to "Fire Island" - or more likely the Hamptons.

It's a trip... and what a long, strange one it has been.

9 comments:

Lisa Winston said...

So THAT'S where my Bowie tapes went ...

Podunk Princess said...

atf - my name is stephanie. what's yours? are you on facebook?

atf said...

my name is al...im not on facebook....but who did you know in the 84th street gang?...there are alot of people claiming to have belonged to this 'gang' that i never heard of....maybe some day i will join facebook but too scared of freaks coming out of the closet....where did you have out the most? the yard? mini and maxi fitz? kenny kitler? do you remember al and jim suss? they may have been before your time...

Podunk Princess said...

I remember mini fitz! lol!!! and chris and gus and sully and mark (and all his stab wounds)... they were like my big brothers. John was the one that every girl pined after... they took me to some interesting parts of the city, for sure. Don't remember Kenny, though. From 84th St... aside from Fish and Billy (RIP) and Dom and the Reid brothers (Brian was a very good friend and I remember when Mike was killed)... well, right now there's a group on FB called UCLA and it's Manny and Barrie, Chris Marzulli, Romana, Frank Maelyen... and there are tons of old photos! hahhaa.. Brian Daly, Andy O'Connor, Bob Collins, Liam and Mike McCann... the photos are a trip. Let's see... I dated Jimmy Siegel in '82 and Billy Jankowski (from 92nd)... he's the one that went to Rykers - okay, now it's ALL out there! LOL! He and Mario drove around in a white camaro. My email is podunkwife@gmail.com. Feel free to email me. Not a freak.

Where did you live? Where did you go to HS?

atf said...

alot of those guys you mention i dont remember ever being part of the group that hung out on 84th & lex.....maybe they hung there from 1984 on when the older group moved on....did you know mark oconnor died? i was very good friends with bobby flay when i was 11, 12, 13 but then he started hanging with another group on 82nd and lex....bob collins, brian daley were definitely part if the 84th street gang no doubt....i knew the mccann brothers cause they went to st ignatius...but they never hung out on 84th & lex...the guys who hung on 84th & lex from 1976 to early 80s were....mccarthy brothers, john begley, gilheany brothers, brian daley, andre dupius (chins brother) fitzpatrick brothers, henry connell, rob collins, cahil brothers, michael reid, thomas cullen, george estrada, etc

i have no idea who the following people you mentioned are: Manny and Barrie, Chris Marzulli, Romana, Frank Maelyen, dom, billy, Jimmy Siegel and Billy Jankowski. They must have started hanging out there after 1983 when i became a barfly....

nice chatting
i grew up on 93rd street and went to st ignatius...i knew john denoia he was cool and like you said every girl had a rush on him...

Podunk Princess said...

do you remember eddie calligari (sp)? dave brooks? nice chatting with you too!

atf said...

i know who eddie caligari was but he never hung out with us on 84th street. nor did he ever want to. never heard of dave brooks. i also remember mark and rick fucile... mark was alwyas wasted (or was it rick) but again they were 82nd and 81st street i think... maybe after 1983 when the older group started hanging out in bars/going off to college these guys moved from 82nd to 84th street...also i checked facebook and the only guys mentioned on there that ever hung on 84th street were rob collins, brian daley, george estrada. Bobby Flay did also but he then started hanging with another group when he was 15 or so (i guess the group on 82nd street). There are alot of guys on facebook that i dont think ever hung out on 84th street. I think the creator of the group even mentions in one of his posts on facebook that he hung out on 87th street and not 84th street. it sounds like there were alot of streets that had kids hanging out on them in the 70s/80s that i was totally unaware of...

atf said...

i heard that john denoia's older sister diane died of cancer on october 22nd. Just thought i'd let you know.

Podunk Princess said...

thank you for letting me know... yes, liam told me. my heart goes out to them.